I have a question...

dogandcat · Post by **dogandcat** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:12 pm

I have a question, wouldnt it be mathematically impossible for a dragon to fly? i mean, they would have to have HUGE wings.
i just wanted to no

Jishdefish · Post by **Jishdefish** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:58 pm

Some say that dragons are lightweight or serpant like, but others think that they contain helium or some other lightweight element, and still there is the theory of a combination of the two. Then there is always the idea that it has magic to keep it in the air. And then the chinese dragons don't even have wings, they use the sun to stay afloat.

Ersska · Post by **Ersska** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:37 pm

You know Tempest has a site explaining all of this.

Here's the link: http://www.dragnix.net/From_tail_to_snout/

manofthewolf · Post by **manofthewolf** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:46 pm

I tend to believe that dragons have almost no fat so that leaves only muscle,bones,and organs then there are there hollow birdlike bones and the dragons that do have wings have fairly large wings they are usually at least longer than (normal) people so they do give of a nice method of lift and they have alot of muscle so they can push much faster and harder plus they could use natural hot air to keep them in the air.So in the end theyre muscle and 8 or 9 feet long wings only have to pick up about 1 ton of weight.Give or take a few hundred punds depending on breed and size.Sorry its so long just alot i have to get across.Now i shall read tempest's page.

Ersska · Post by **Ersska** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:02 pm

Muscle is heavier than fat. . .

manofthewolf · Post by **manofthewolf** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:03 pm

I know this i was regarding that a dragon doesnt have alot of muscle and fat to weigh it down a lil fat wich most animals have and a lot of muscle

Chalgrish · Post by **Chalgrish** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:47 pm

A lack of any fat would cause the dragon to die. Fatty tissues are present mainly in the nervous system and respiratory system.

As for "lots of muscle and bigger wingspans", You fail to realize that the larger the wings are, the greater the uplift must be. As the wings grow, so does this requisite. Eventually, it couldn't lift itself off the ground.

Post by **vampirehunter42** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:13 am

Well the big problem is the strength of the bones. Yes they can have the "bird like" bones. But look at the larger birds they don't fly. The largest birds that can fly are about the size of a large dog. So in my thought is that would be the size level of a flying dragon. Anything larger would cause too much stress on the bones connecting the wings to the body. And would have a greater chance of breaking.

Chalgrish · Post by **Chalgrish** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:10 am

Not to mention the volume/mass/size ratio, yes? As the volume of said dragon increases, its mass increases exponentially.

Falconer · Post by **Falconer** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:38 pm

Hey, I saw this neat DVD, where the guy said that even with lightweight bones, dragons can't fly. So in the dragon's intestinal tract, either methane or hydrogen gas (I don't remember which) builds up and produces lift.

Please don't make the usual comments about intestinal gas. I heard them all already.

wut2say · Post by **wut2say** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:29 pm

ummmmmm,.................i wouldnt try to continue this conversation, cosidering that dogandcat(my sister) never comes here anymore and she has already heard my speech on this subject many times now.

Chalgrish · Post by **Chalgrish** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:50 pm

*looks at the date, at Falconer, and.....lockifies the crap outta a bunch of posts.*