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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:47 am
by Silentiea
I don't think Neco's sig is in shorthand, it just isn't in the generally excepted as common English. Watashiwa shinnin desu.
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:44 pm
by Firuweata
I wasn't saying that it was, I was just saying that shorthand shouldn't be so incomprehensible that no one(excluding the typist) can read it...
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:06 pm
by Exanderous
Thats all fine and dandy... Listen up.
... take a hard look at my guidelines... What does it say not to do? Thats right.. call people out... This is your warning. I appreciate your input, but you had taken passed my line of tolerance.
Apparently instead of handling this situation correctly by sending me a Private Message and asking what was ok and what not, you seem to not understand my reason for no short hand
An Example: "Tday right? I pwned these nwbs so hrd and they died lolz" "Lke OMG Are you serious?" "Yeh cuz its what I do" "Lol tru tru." "Hey did you get the DL from John?" "No he trned MIA on us. and I wsnt Happy, but he had an app. so I guess its ok"
*Exanderous busts the door down and hacks them to pieces with a machete.*
Titles such as Dr. Mr. or Ms are allowed... you know why? Because they are titles.
Short hand on a spam thread is acceptable. Short hand on an RP is almost a sin. It offends people, and an RP is considered someone's work. A piece of art if you will. Short hands ruins the image and degrades the experience and creates the reflection of imputence and non professional qualities.
We all know what GTFO or STFU or lol means... does it make it right to use it? No..
We all know what gang signs mean, but do we really want the image of us going out flashing them in public (Mind you, we run the risk of getting shot.)
Just because we know what something means does not grant the "ok" to use it.
The fact remains. Short hand is very ill advised.
Thank you..
-Exanderous
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:08 pm
by Neco the Nightwraith
My sig, Firuweata, is not shorthand, nor is it English. It's Gaelic. And it is three proverbs that I think should apply to several members of this board.
As for shorthand "lol"s "rofl"s and the like, yes, we do know what those mean, and we all use them. If we all use them, then it would be fine.
It's all the irritating litte "2"s and "ur"s and "y"s that result of it, that do not improve my patience nor opinion of those lazy bums utilizing it, and I'm sure many people might agree, those on this board, and those perhaps thinking about joining.
I believe it's kind of hard to get members if they don't like what they see.
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:10 pm
by Exanderous
*Reads Nico's post, and then points to his post above*
Enough said.
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:14 pm
by Firuweata
Ok, Everyone, listen up, because I am tired of saying it...
I know it isn't shorthand. I know it isn't English. All I was saying is that shorthand should be able to be read AND understood by everyone...
I think that shorthand is OK on the first four boards, but the RP boards should have everything typed out. It's a story, not a random jumble of letters...
I know it is annoying, but so is the president. And if we have the capacity to tolerate one, the second could easily be tolerated...
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:17 pm
by Neco the Nightwraith
We don't tolerate him. We just can't do anything about it.
Well, Firuweata, here's what I say to you:
Stop being so insistent. Perhaps offence wouldn't be taken if you found a better way to say it.
Again...misunderstandings often relate to laziness.
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:30 pm
by Exanderous
Fyru YOU listen up.
Listen
Attention
Notice
I am the one who is tired of SAYING this! Short hand; be it small, understandable, intolerable, readable, incomprehensable, is ILL-ADVISED! Does that mean people will still do it? Probably. In the RP forum it is prohibited, but as you stated the other forums are open. I said it ruins the image... I commented on how it demeans the image of the board... I used words such as ADVISED! (Does that mean to recommend or suggest? No it must mean enforce! *shakes head*)
You think shorthand is ok? Thats dandy. I dont. My oppinion and yours contradict apparently. This is not an issue of tolerance. If it was, I would have snapped eighteen thousand times already. The bottom line is, This board ill advises short hand in other forums and is prohibited in the RP forum. If you do not like it, get over it. You do not have to stay if you do not wish to.
Neco. Do NOT call anyone out again. I appreciate your defense, but I have it covered.
If you have a problem with what I do or say, pm ME. Addressing it to the public is a no no for future references.
-Exanderous-
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:41 pm
by Dragyness
Having read the thread carefully, I really have to put my two cents in here and say that you all seem to be saying the same thing, just in different ways and ticking each other off. I think that I agree with Ex however, that shorthand really isn't acceptable anywhere on the Board, regardless of what forum it's in or what-not. This is a message board, not a chat room, and as such, postings up here should probably consist of more... normal vocabulary for lack of a better word. Now, can we stop other people from using it 100%? More than likely not, and that is where Firu has a point that perhaps tolerance is a possibility. After all, we can't go about biting off the heads of everyone who uses shorthand. But, going back to what Ex said about it demaning the image of the Board, I have to say that I agree, and while we may somewhat tolerate some shorthand, perhaps we should all make the effort to actually write things out. It only takes a few more key-strokes anyhow, and the place will look better for it and who knows? We may just wind up with more members, perhaps interested in RPing, after seeing that this isn't just a chat board.
So, in closing, shorthand, if it MUST be used, is tolerable SOMEWHAT, but I think we should all make a concentrated effort to keep it to a BARE minimum. It'll mak the Board look better (we won't just look like a bunch of kids chatting it up about absolutely nothing) and in the long run it'll actually help out a lot too.
Live. Laugh. Love.
~*Draggy*~
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:17 pm
by Neco the Nightwraith
One will behave in the future.
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:47 pm
by Jishdefish
Good good now everyone.... STOP POSTING!!! This site is officially closed.
Cue locking of site>
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:08 pm
by Silentiea
Look, look! I'm posting in a 'locked' thread! I feel like such a bad person...
-You should.
Look! ^^ She posted here too! That was unexpected.
-Really, if you post here, I do too, we are technically the same entity here. Wow, to say that out loud just strikes dread into my heart...
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:12 pm
by Exanderous
Well said Dragyness. Exactly what I had to say par different words.
Hopefully with the passing of time order will be restored to the board. We all may rest easy soon for mods will be elected soon.
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:52 pm
by Silentiea
Will they? I hope I'm not one...
I was a mod on a board once; it had a lot of rules and members. I pretty much stopped doing it after a while...
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:26 pm
by Firuweata
WTF!!!
WTF X 2!!!
LAZINESS!!!
I ALWAYS TYPE IN THE CORRECT FORM OF GRAMMER!!!
*laughs*
Neco the Nightwraith, maybe next time you want to critisize someone for being lazy, you should do some research, and not be so lazy yourself...
*hippocrit*...
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:36 pm
by Exanderous
KNOCK IT OFF!
Fyru I told you not to call anyone out! You disregard my guidelines and pay no heed to the topic previously discussed. This was dead and burried until you decided to show your immaturity and bring it back. Never call anyone out especially using names and RESPECT OTHERS! I am tired of lecturing you fyru I am not going to warn you next time. You will find you will be unable to log in to this board if you continue.
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:39 pm
by Firuweata
yes masta'...
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:31 pm
by Silentiea
Firu, you-
-Firuweata.
FIRU, you spelled hipocrite wrong.
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:54 pm
by Exanderous
Silentia... though it was a post to point out a mistake, this thread has drawn some harsh sentiments. Take it easy ok?
This thread is for guidelines. Let us not turn it into something its not.
Firu, thank you for cooperating...
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:35 am
by Silentiea
Righto, and my apologies.
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:31 am
by Jishdefish
I thought this post was CLOSED!!!!!
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:17 pm
by Silentiea
It doesn't seem to be.
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:26 pm
by Exanderous
Alright. Quit posting on this thread. This will soon be a read only thread.
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:52 pm
by Silentiea
I can wait.
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:35 pm
by Exanderous
Stop posting. No more.. No one... Not one more post.