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Help! For a research paper

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:51 am
by anime_echo
I'm doing a research paper on the idea that dragons might have existed, as dinosaurs, since they appear in almost every country's mythology. I need 2 books though for my sources. Does ANYONE know of any books that aren't mythilogical (This includes Dragonology) that might give me a hand?

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:29 am
by Guest
Mystery in Acambaro, by Charles Hapgood.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:10 pm
by Corva
Serpentum et Draconu(m) libri duo. I've tracked a copy down but the libary won't leet mwe have it. It's in Preston.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:03 pm
by wut2say
Dragons a natural history

dont know the author sorry......

it tells about legends of dragons from all over the world, gives some scientific facts about how it could have been something else or if it was really a dragon...

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:12 pm
by linkdragon0
all the dragonology books. They are real YOU IDIOT! No offence to anyone except anime_echo.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:05 pm
by anime_echo
Did I not just say that mythical books don't count? (Dragonology=fiction, not fact)

But, thank you for all the other suggestions all ^^ It's very helpful

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:12 pm
by Makadona
Big list:

ANON., Dragons: An Anthology of Verse and Prose (Lorenz: London, 1996).

ALDROVANDI, Ulisse, Serpentum et Draconum Historiae Libri Duo (Bononiae, 1640).

ALLEN, Judy & GRIFFITHS, Jeanne, The Book of the Dragon (Orbis: London, 1979).

BINYON, Laurence, The Flight of the Dragon (John Murray: London, 1911).

BÖLSCHE, Wilhelm, Drachen: Sagen und Naturwissenschaft (Franckh'sche Verlagshandlung: Stuttgart, 1929).

BOSE, Hampden C. du, The Dragon, Image and Demon (Presbyterian Committee of Publications: Richmond, 1899).

BOULAY, R.A., Flying Serpents and Dragons: The Story of Mankind's Reptilian Past (Book Tree: Escondido, California, 1997).

CAMPBELL, John F., The Celtic Dragon Myth (John Grant: Edinburgh, 1911).

CARTER, Frederick, The Dragon of the Alchemists (E. Matthews: London, 1926).

COFFIN, Tristram P. (Consultant), The Enchanted World: Dragons (Time-Life: Amsterdam, 1984).

COTTRELL, Annette B., Dragons (Museum of Fine Arts, Boston: Boston, 1962).

DICKINSON, Peter, The Flight of Dragons (Pierrot Publishing: London, 1979).

DIMMICK, Adrian N., Worme Worlde: The Dragon Trivia Source Book (The Dragon Trust: London, 1994).

DUMONT, Leon, La Tarasque (Abbeville, 1949).

DUMONT, Louis, La Tarasque (Paris: 1951).

ELLIOT-SMITH, Grafton, The Evolution of the Dragon (University Press: Manchester, 1919).

FOX, David, Saint George: The Saint With Three Faces (Kensal: Shooter's Lodge, 1983).

GOULD, Charles [SMITH, Malcolm (Ed.)], The Dragon (Wildwood House: London, 1977).

GREEN, Roger L. (Ed.), A Cavalcade of Dragons (H.Z. Walck: New York, 1970).

GRIFFITHS, Bill, Meet the Dragon: An Introduction to Beowulf's Adversary (Heart of Albion Press: Wymeswold, 1996).

HARGREAVES, Joyce, The Dragon Hunter's Handbook (Granada: London, 1983).

HAYES, L. Newton, The Chinese Dragon (Commercial Press: Shanghai, 1922).

HOGARTH, Peter & CLERY, Val, Dragons (Allen Lane: London, 1979).

HOKE, Helen (Ed.), Dragons, Dragons, Dragons (Franklin Watts: New York, 1972).

HOLMAN, Felice & VALEN, Nanine, The Drac: French Tales of Dragons and Demons (Charles Scribner's Sons: New York, 1975).

HOULT, Janet, Dragons: Their History and Symbolism (Gothic Image: Glastonbury, 1987).

HUXLEY, Francis, The Dragon: Nature of Spirit, Spirit of Nature (Thames & Hudson: London, 1979).

INGERSOLL, Ernest, Dragons and Dragon Lore (Payson & Clarke: New York, 1928).

JOHNSGARD, Paul & JOHNSGARD, Karin, Dragons and Unicorns: A Natural History (St. Martin's Press: New York, 1982).

LOFMARK, Carl, A History of the Red Dragon (Gwasg Carreg Gwalch: Llanrwst, 1995).

MEURGER, Michel, Histoire Naturelle des Dragons (Terre de Brume: Rennes, 2001).

NEWMAN, Paul, The Hill of the Dragon: An Enquiry Into the Nature of Dragon Legends (Rowman & Littlefield: Ottowa, 1980).

PENNICK, Nigel, Dragons of the West (Capall Bann: Chieveley, 1997).

PHILLIPS, Henry, Basilisks and Cockatrices (E. Stern: Philadelphia, 1882).

RUDD, Elizabeth (Ed.), Dragons (W.H. Allen: London, 1980).

SALVERTE, Eusebe B. de, Des Dragons et des Serpents Monstrueux qui Figurent dans un Grand Nombre de Récits Fabuleux ou Historiques (Rignoux: Paris, 1826).

SANDERS, Tao Tao Liu, Dragons, Gods and Spirits From Chinese Mythology (Schocken Books: New York, 1983).

SCREETON, Paul, The Lambton Worm and Other Northumbrian Dragon Legends (Zodiac House: Fulham, 1978).

SCREETON, Paul, Whisht Lads and Haad Yor Gobs: The Lambton Worm and Other Northumberland Dragon Legends (Northeast Press: Pennywell, 1998).

SIMPSON, Jacqueline, British Dragons (B.T. Batsford: London, 1980).

TOPSELL, Edward, The Historie of Serpents (William Iaggard: London, 1608).

TRUBSHAW, Bob, Dragon Slaying Myths Ancient and Modern (Heart of Albion Press: Wymeswold, 1993).

VISSER, Marinus de, The Dragon in China and Japan (Johannes Müller: Amsterdam, 1858).

WHITLOCK, Ralph, Here Be Dragons (George Allen & Unwin: London, 1983).


Found em all online, and I think they will help.

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:28 pm
by Corva
Makadona, where can I get a copy of ALDROVANDI, Ulisse, Serpentum et Draconum Historiae Libri Duo from. I've been looking for ages and the library won't let me read theirs because it's classed as 'adult reference'.

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:40 pm
by Makadona
I found them online, I do not know where to get a copy, or to read a copy.

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:52 pm
by wut2say
why can you not get one? what's wrong with adult reference.

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:38 pm
by Corva
*shrugs* I don't no, probably think it's to complicated or something like that. I'm going to get my parents to get it out.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:47 pm
by Draco Basiliskos
linkdragon0 wrote:all the dragonology books. They are real YOU IDIOT! No offence to anyone except anime_echo.
I really agree the only book i don't have is the taming one and i too am a dragonmaster!!! :lol:

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:52 pm
by Draco Basiliskos
anime_echo wrote:Did I not just say that mythical books don't count? (Dragonology=fiction, not fact)

But, thank you for all the other suggestions all ^^ It's very helpful
I WILL TELL YOU THIS MISTER!!or mam...IF YOU DON'T RESPECT DR.ERNEST DRAKE AND HIS BOOKS I CAN SOMMON A MIGRATING FROST DRAGON AND GIVE YOU MORE PIECES OF MY MIND!!! :evil: I have done it before but..... i used tainted silver instead of a gold disk...

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:15 am
by Corva
Have you heard the term DEAD THREAD?!?!

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:47 pm
by + Silver - Orbs +
DragonRider- please see your Inbox regarding this thread

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:02 am
by A hidden figure...
Every culture has had one form or other of dragons. However, there are several rational reasons for why this might be...

Firstly, man made it to the top of the food chain a short period after the ice age. Mankind needed a physical embodiment of what their new fear would look like. It was likely dinosaur bones were unearthed, and these huge beasts became mans' new predator; despite the fact that they were seperated by hundreds of millions of years...

The reason all cultures have the one form of dragon or another is also easily explained away. Look back far enough in mans' lineage, and you'll find that at one time, mankind was just one race. Clearly, the dragon was imagined before everybody split up. When the races split up, each had their own adaption of the dragon suited for where they were, such as mezo-america, which had one coated in feathers and similar to that of the birds of prey found there...

This also goes on to prove that ancient Egyptians descended from aliens, as they don't have any dragons in their arts or religions...

And I'll bet you took me seriously for second there...

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:25 am
by + Silver - Orbs +
Up until the Egypt bit I was starting to think we'd gained a logical member of the board *sighs and goes back to polishing the sabre*

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:09 am
by Blue Tiger
WOW...Thats one of the best discriptions as to why almost every culture has dragons involved in it! I have always wondered that and didnt really see it that way. Thanks for the inspiration... *stares at "a hidden figure" with amazement*

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:25 am
by + Silver - Orbs +
Blue Tiger> You might want to register to get 'full reign' of what you can do on the board btw

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:40 am
by Blue Tiger
What do you mean to get "full reign", youre starting to scare me... I dont know how to register....

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:59 pm
by + Silver - Orbs +
The top menu beneath 'Dragnix.net'. It says 'Register' on there

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:38 am
by Blue Tiger
Thanks for the info +silver-orbs+, I have just joined, after much hesitation. :wink:

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:10 pm
by awsome
Oh, I'm plenty logical...I just had to post that so anyone that felt offended by it would think I wasn't serious...

So if anything, I'm even more logical for posting it...Plus, I have to meet a minimum amount of zanniness to legally be considered eccentric...