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All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:04 pm
by raptor
Dragons and treasure seem to go together like peanut butter and jelly, salt and pepper, and even mac and cheese. Why is that? What jewels are the most use by then? Do each breed have it's own gem it's attracted to?

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:14 pm
by alondor
For the most part dragons are said to be attracted to gold. not entirely sure if it is true or not, for all we know the mythmakers gave the draon gold to make the knights more noble

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:17 pm
by Drakel
good point but what happens if they were not lieing DM? here is my theary on the subject.

I have an answer to the first question but the other two are big fat NO.

My theory: Dragons each like all types of gold, silver and jewels but they wouldn't pick favorites over them. I think dragons are overly attracted to them because (kind of like some birds) they are overly shiny. (Greed) is when you want something because you don't have it and it looks nice to you. Well dragons would be overly (Greedy) for these gems because dragons like how they shine in the light.

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:20 pm
by alondor
That is lowering a dragon's iq level though. if the myths are not lying then the dragons took the valuables merely to see how the humans would react.

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:23 pm
by Drakel
True but nothing is perfect and a dragon would be smart enough to know what is voluble and what is not. Presides if a dragon was smart enough they would still be (greedy) and still have a VERY high IQ level.

EDIT: maybe I am explaining wrong. ok let me restart my theory


A dragon would feel attraction because it would be natural instanced to collect and want gold BUT that douse not mean their IQ lvl would change cause they would be able to see past their desire for gold, silver and gems because it isn't that part of the brain they are using.

For say a dragon sees someone riding on a horse packed with gold. well this human would not be much of a threat and the dragon would feel this (greed) for the items and act out of knowledge to take what they truly want with ease because the human isn't much of a threat and the dragon wouldn't mind taking such a small risk.


now imagine over 20 dragon slayers riding on horses and only one horse is packed with gold, silver, gems. The dragon would use this knowledge and see that there is to much of a risk to even go out and fight for only a small amount of gold.

See the difference? if not I got more to say.

A dragon would also not be so attracted to the gold that it affects their IQ level because they would still be able to focus on more important things and such even if there is a group of ppl with a small pile worth of gold on them. They would not be savant though they would still want the gold, silver and gems cause that is their instinct to want gold silver and gems but that will not really affect a dragon's knowledge as much as some would think.

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:20 pm
by raptor
So you're calling a dragon lust for gold "greed"? That's a good theroy,but it sounds more like coveting or envying the owner of the jewelry than greed. And I thought they didn't act on their emotions, no matter how tempting?

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:42 pm
by Drakel
no I was actualy using that word in the cristion tense of calling a dragon with this so called '"GREED" that is why I put the word in parenticys.

no not emotions but instinct. The need to have gold as an instinct. kinda like having an instict to take the left rode insted of the right. HOWEVER! a Dragon could ignore the lust for gold at times just like we could take the right rode. see where I am going with this??

They feel the need for gold but they could resist it at any time chosen (NOTE: not all the time though)

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:46 pm
by Falconer
I know several people who are easily distracted by shiny objects... that said, I don't subscribe to the mainstream theory that dragons used gemstones to armor their underbellies. Natural gems are incredibly rare- dragons would need humans, need their mining skills and their pretty stones.

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:50 pm
by Drakel
YEP! we do the work (drgon steels) and the dragon gets the $$ :lol: :lol:

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:55 pm
by raptor
Not all dragons have a weakness or instinct for shiny things? what about the sea dragons?

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:56 pm
by Falconer
Who knows what shiny things they might collect?

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:02 pm
by Drakel
yep. there has been and will always be more shiny treasure in the sea than there is on the ground. Sea dragons would actualy have more shiny treasure than a europion dragon

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:04 pm
by raptor
All I know is their weakness for gems must not be that hard to over come because I have not heard a story with them coming up just for some shiny things. The insticnt to avoid humans must be greater than it's need for jewels and etc.

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:07 pm
by Drakel
yep.

unless it is a human on a road by himself with a good amount of shiny things. then it would seem to be more like an easy grab.

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:11 pm
by raptor
A sea dragon? with fins/or flippers? stealing from someone on dry land? :eyebrow:

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:21 pm
by Drakel
no I was talking about a normal drgon lol.

Sea dragon would be more or less like the same story exsept it would be more like this.

one alone boat in the middle of nowere on the sea with shiny things on it. Sea dragon would see that as an easy grab and show up.

any more than 2-3 boats would(possably) most likely not be worth the risk in a dragon's eyes.

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:23 pm
by raptor
I don't think Nessie has weakness for the cheddar or $$.

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:26 pm
by Drakel
dragonmaster52094 wrote:honestly I think nessie and champ died long ago. (also if they did not die there is still the possability that they are not even a sea dragon)

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:29 pm
by raptor
I think they are an entire speices, not just one or two. But that is off topic.

P.S. They are too smart to be plesiours.

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:22 pm
by Forgotten Dragon's Ire
ok i will quote earlier post
dragonmaster52094 wrote:yep. there has been and will always be more shiny treasure in the sea than there is on the ground. Sea dragons would actualy have more shiny treasure than a europion dragon
Why would they need to steal from land-dwellers if this is true and it is true

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:42 pm
by Drakel
They actually don't lol.

But then again I also said it is instinct to want gold, silver, and gems so maybe they would still go after land dwellers for their gold, silver, gems because it is pure instinct.

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:36 am
by vampirehunter42
The real question is what type of items do they look for? Would they look for worked items or natural items.

And if worked items, what would that be? Coins, bricks, plates, cups and so on. Or would they look for other artwork. Paintings, tapestries or things like that.


Though we must wonder...... Why can't they make things of their own?

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:58 pm
by Drakel
1) both!
2) Both!
3) why not!?

Re: All that glistens

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:46 pm
by raptor
That all sounds like "coveting" or "envying" to me. Wanting something not posses by oneself, instinct or not.