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Wicca

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:12 am
by Jade88
This is compleatly out of the subject of Dragons but...
How many of you know that wicca exists, and if you do what do you think about it.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:51 am
by Roadkill
It's a religion/philosohpy just like Christianity, Buddahism, Hinduism,etc

For good info on wicca, here's a good site.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htm

You can also go to this. It's either.com or .org, I don't remember.
www.wicca.com

Or if you have specific questions, ask me. I considered going into wicca, so I've done a lot of research. Unfortunately I'm too violent of a person to abide by Do What Ye Will and Harm None part. heh.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:02 pm
by + Silver - Orbs +
Im a Wicca :) been so now for a few years.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:35 pm
by Jade88
So am i i was just wondering what people thought about it

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:55 pm
by niño de los dragones
well i am a witch/ wicca. few diffreces though minor ones. i find it calming yet energizing at the same time. the ability to do thigs with magic is so fun. i ty to help other with my power but every once in a while it is nice to do something for ur self. and right now i am trying to learn all the healling spells i can so that when i join the Army National Guard tomarrow i can help heal people.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:00 pm
by LoyalReaperDragon
lol, a dragon in human fourm how knows magic in the national guard nice

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:08 pm
by niño de los dragones
i figured someone has to put an end to this petty war that these humans creat over next to nothing. plus they can never seem to get along. so i figure i will just have to go and see if i can talk some sense into them and if not well lest just say i was my own ways of persuading them.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:49 pm
by Roadkill
niño de los dragones wrote:i figured someone has to put an end to this petty war that these humans creat over next to nothing. plus they can never seem to get along. so i figure i will just have to go and see if i can talk some sense into them and if not well lest just say i was my own ways of persuading them.
Earth is not infinite with infinite resources. If you study biology, you learn about the Competitive Exclusion Principle, which states that two organisms that are competiting for the exact same space and resources at the exact same time cannot coexist. So, like other animals, humans are bound to come into violent conflict with each other. Wars not over "next to nothing". They're about power and control. Only the soldiers are fighting for abstract ideals such as honor and virtue. The folks who actually start it are trying to increase their power and control or under the control of some country not involved in the war but lets the other nation do its dirty work.

Have you read 1984? In a twisted way, the wars we have now are good. They hit us with reality and keep us from getting too nieve. If only there were some way to do that without massive lies and deaths...
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Wicca. It's a religion, but is not all about magic, as many people think. True, some wiccas do magic. But the basic principles are the respect for life, freedom and nature. This means love spells or curses are forbidden. If a wiccan thinks someone is a violent jerk who needs their butt kicked, they usually just ask the Lord and the Lady/The One/one of the many greek gods whichever form they prefer to worship.

As for magic, I don't really believe in it. Mostly because you can't control exactly when a spell will work. So basically it's shooting the arrow first, and then calling whatever you hit the target.

Healing is a different matter. Wiccans were among the first healers and were much better than the delusioned doctors in the Middle Ages. I don't know if I'd call it magic over just the chemical properties of the herbs they use but whatever.

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 3:35 pm
by niño de los dragones
true they use herbs and then they also can use spells. i being a hafling am able to use the arura that surrounds people the help heal them. only it takes to long to heal them using that methode.

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:20 pm
by Ekdahl Zakharov
I dont feel like reading all the previous posts but I'll say that a war of religion will and is developing. It may be a few or many more years before it breaks out but it's definatly going to happen. Wiccan is the sister relgion to my own, Druidic, so yes I do belive it is a real thing, just because it's an old relgion and not as wide-spread as christanty doesn't mean it's not something of existance or reality. If you want to know more of Wiccan or Druidic or just Pagan in general then go to http://www.paganlibrary.com

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:31 pm
by Roadkill
I dont feel like reading all the previous posts but I'll say that a war of religion will and is developing. It may be a few or many more years before it breaks out but it's definatly going to happen. Wiccan is the sister relgion to my own, Druidic, so yes I do belive it is a real thing, just because it's an old relgion and not as wide-spread as christanty doesn't mean it's not something of existance or reality. If you want to know more of Wiccan or Druidic or just Pagan in general then go to http://www.paganlibrary.com
I have to disagree. I know many Christians, and I believe it is possible for Christianity and Wicca and Druidic can exist side by side. It will be more of a clash between those who take the texts literally vs. the metaphorically.

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:45 pm
by Dragon444
I'm an ex-wicca person. I still use some of the practices of wicca, but I'm christian now. Wicca is fun. I only wish that you can use wicca more to gain what you want.

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:27 pm
by Taluscion
Well, I should certainly hope so, otherwise my beliefs are for naught.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:00 am
by niño de los dragones
i don't think a war bettween religions is coming. atleast not between wicca and catholics. mabey between muslims and catholics. but not wicca. plus a witch could totaly destory the church if they wanted to.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:16 pm
by Ekdahl Zakharov
Negitive on the Catholics. I ment like Babtists (if that's even how you spell it :roll: ) And all those other (pardon but) stupid conservitive branches of christianity that cripple freewill and the ablility to think as individuals.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:41 pm
by Aiolos
I love you too, fatass. Not all of the 'stupid branches of Christianity' cripple your freewill and ability to be yourself. Please, EXPLAIN.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:30 pm
by Taluscion
Alright, even I must admit that I do not hold Christianity in high regard, but Christians, like every other human beings, are multi-faceted humans. Beliefs that are taught by the Bible are (sorry to say this) perverted. Before you say anything, I don't mean that they are all bad, in fact, most of the Bible, even I hold as a teaching. But if you think about it, the last person to right the Bible was King James, he was a facist, homophobic, male chauvanist ruler. The Bible nowadays reflects that. Most Christians alos reflect this, but I am proud to say I have many Christian friends who know I'm pagan, and still love me.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:27 pm
by Tempest
Not all of the 'stupid branches of Christianity' cripple your freewill and ability to be yourself. Please, EXPLAIN.
<ahem> I think he said:"And all those other (pardon but) stupid conservative branches of christianity that cripple freewill and the ability to think as individuals."

It is not very difficult to see how conservatives (and more fundamentalist) branches of christianity do not rank personal freedom and freewill very high... They are also very vocal to make their dogmas (even the ones most absurd) the law of the land.

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 3:09 am
by vampirehunter42
Well I am a Narcissist. With the perfect religion of Narcissism. We know we are the end of evolution, because no others will be better than us. We call the rest of you "normals". But we do not petty you, we know it is not your fault you are just normal. But you all look the same in our eyes.


No just kidding. I am Lutheran.

Well back on topic, Wicca is "real" in that a number of people pratispate in it. But of what I understand "Jedi" is a "real" religion in the eyes of England, because enough people said that was their religion on the census that it was a "real" one. So you can be anything you can think of, but it does not matter. As long as you are happy, do it but don't rub it in peoples faces. That is why most people hate other realigns.

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:34 pm
by Aiolos
I'm Lutheran, too. And I don't follow the Bible like a sidewalk. I don't think I've even read it...or even part of it... :?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:08 pm
by Firuweata
I actually think that is the wisest thing to do. If you follow the bible like a...

*realises metaphore won't work*

If you follow the bible to strictly, and let it run your life, you will wind up stoning people for heresey, homosexuality, adultery, or just because you feel like it. The bible says that slavery is okay...

However, one must keep in mind that this book was written by men, in a time where the church was the authority. So, following it to closely will ironically, be morally incorrect. However, the message it gives us should always be followed. Basically, the bible is a 2000 page, 66 book explanation of the phrase "Do unto others as thou shalt want done unto you"...

However, in olden days, "F's" were used as "S's", so it would actually be "Do unto otherf af thou falt want done unto you"...

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:39 am
by Roadkill
niño de los dragones wrote:i don't think a war bettween religions is coming. atleast not between wicca and catholics. mabey between muslims and catholics. but not wicca. plus a witch could totaly destory the church if they wanted to.
If they did destroy a church they would be a warlock/oath breaker, because they used magic to harm others. So then, the Christians would win, because they're still loyal to their faith and wiccans would just be hypocrites.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:53 pm
by niño de los dragones
thats why i said if they wanted to. plus there is not alway soeone in the church. so all they have to do is time it right. then blow the building off the map. but it would like u say enrage the cathlics. so always let them make the fist move.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:42 pm
by Roadkill
niño de los dragones wrote:thats why i said if they wanted to. plus there is not alway soeone in the church. so all they have to do is time it right. then blow the building off the map. but it would like u say enrage the cathlics. so always let them make the fist move.
Still, churches are the foundation of many charities and provide tons of aid to the poor. So even if you blew up an empty church, you would still cause harm indirectly.

And besides it doesn't take magic to blow up a church when you have fire and bombs. Anyone could do it. So the whole blowing up churches thing would still only benefit the catholics, as they can turn it against the wiccan who threatens them, even if the catholics made the first move.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:47 pm
by niño de los dragones
ya but it was fair and equal retaliation. learn the arts of war.